Hmmm ... not sure if a man is allowded to post here or not,

But I should point out that the "certain battery operated devices" that you are looking for are actually illegal, extremely illegal, as in classified by the Vietnamese government up there with drugs, pornography, guns, and anti-government literature. A man here in Hanoi was just sentenced to 20 years in jail for trying to smuggle them in from Australia.

Well my dear. I would suggest 3 solutions.

1. I know of a lovley shop in Melbourne, Australia entitled SexyLand who do some more "artistic" looking devices, which would pass through customs like a treat. Abstract sculpture eat your heart out!

2. www.adultshop.com.au Overseas delievery in discreet brown bag. Like they are gonna look!

3. Be creative. Battery opperated toothbrushes. Fresh fruit and vegtables, all you need to do is look in your local market. Dozens of opportunities.

http://www.thanhniennews.com/features/?catid=10&newsid=38622

Demographics of Vietnam:

Population: 83,689,518 (July 2005 est.)

Age structure:

0-14 years: 29.4% (male 12,524,098; female 11,807,763)
15-64 years: 65% (male 26,475,156; female 27,239,543)
65 years and over: 5.6% (male 1,928,568; female 2,714,390)
(2004 est.)

Population growth rate: 1.3% (2004 est.)

Birth rate: 19.58 births/1,000 population (2004 est.)

Death rate: 6.14 deaths/1,000 population (2004 est.)

Net migration rate: -0.45 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2004 est.)

Sex ratio:

at birth: 1.08 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.06 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 0.97 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.71 male(s)/female
total population: 0.98 male(s)/female (2004 est.)

wow almost 84 million people and no men? No wonder some many bored girls out there.

Deary me, A little bickering going on here! In response to this....


"What's so wrong with local men?"

Well dahling i am all for a bit of local flirting but cross cultural lovin is pretty hard going. When you take into account language, different wages, family situation it's just not viable... Not for lack of trying... As for all that business with statistics and numbers and all that... phaaaaaaaa numbers snumbers...

and to the origional question... check out the article posted before...

I may take a trip to the "Happy Market" (Hang Chieu) myself!

Miss Kiss

well this has created quite a stir! fantastic! thank you for the link to the very interesting newspaper article and the info on the official legal status of these certain battery operated devices. I'll be sure to keep mine in a well concealed hiding spot! Re the statistics on the male/female ratio in Hanoi - bah humbug... thank you MissKiss etc for your insight on how statistics mean bugger all when it comes to this particular 'shortage of decent men in Hanoi' crisis. And I have no issues with local men either, it all just comes down to personal taste and preference, which I believe MissKiss was trying to express. Pulling it back to the initial question being asked, I believe I too, shall be paying a visit to the aptly named 'Happy Market' (if any of you do have success in your search there please let me know the go). Oh and sign me up for the next trip to SexyLand man!

oh wesmo, this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about! all the fly guys are taken!!! NEXT!!!

A trip to SexyLand is a fab idea however I believe we need to nip this at the grassroots ladies... maybe a screening process when guys first enter customs? Ultimately it's quality, not quantity (to a certain degree!) An added section to the arrivals card that determines whether they can get a stamp in their passport? I've got a few ideas myself on how to write the questionnaire, THAT'S for sure!

Thanks for the kudos for answerin yur question, MissHanoi.

... was going to add, if it's illegal, there is no doubt, there's a hidden underground market for it somewhere. Via la Vietnam.

As well, going to add, it cuts both ways, MissHanoi.

True, I agree with you and the other VietDivas ... good man are hard to find. However, it is also true that True Women are also so so hard to find.

At the moment I am exploring my celibate side, and I have to say ... lucky you with your 'battery powered' devices.

Although I'm taken, my girl is in the US, so I can still make the complaint that there aren't that many good women here. If I didnt have her I probably wouldn't have liked anything here.

wesmo wesmo wesmo, your girlfriend must be one unbelievable female speciman for you to not find anyone appealing here, but then again, it could just be that you love her so much you just don't find anyone else attractive!!! Although I can't speak for the other contributing ladies on this particular chat topic, I'm afraid it's too hard for me to give a dossier on my ideal guy. These things are kind of intangible in my book! Maybe...er.....Available? ummmmmmm....honest, trustworthy (upper case & bold), sexy, intelligent, fun, smart enough to know a good woman when they see one!!!!! lolololololol

Anyhow, what I really want to know is if any women reading this have had a chance to check out this happy market in the old quarter yet? I'm kind of not sure how to approach someone to ask for what I'm looking for. How do you say 'battery operated device' in pidgeon viet? I don't think sign language is appropriate under these circumstances!!!!!

ps. Miss Kiss...your fresh produce suggestion was formidable however cucumbers generally don't cut it for me! lololololol

Best convo ever on TNH.

Miss Hanoi: I work a lot so it's very possible that I just haven't seen enough. I usually like short cute girls with big butts, lol. ANd yes, my gf fits my mold exactly, but I still can usually scout good talent even if I'm not interested. The reason I was asking what you liked is cus I see a lot of Westerner guys when i go out and i thought maybe i could refer you to some places where you might meet some "solar powered" stimulation, lol. As far as that cucumber convo, either you buy small cucumbers or I'm impressed, lol.

Bethany: I'm sure girls have some basic physical requirements that they care for. I've sorta been starved for interesting convo, thats why we're all asking, lol.

HEALTH AND SAFETY WARNING.... Do not try the extra large cuecumbers. Either you will never be able to have a sexual experince with out one, or you will damage your self.


(not from experience)

well in that case Bethany, you should have plenty to choose from

Just don't try any of the following.

Pinapples, Durian, Watermelon, Extra Large Cucumbers.

again... not from experience.

Miss Hanoi perhaps you should run some tests with other vegtables and let us know the results.

If it weren't for the fact that this convo seems to be 95% women and I dont want to look like the gay male friend in the group, I would suggest meeting for a discussion group on this topic over drinks, lol.

Out of the expat community, there are more eligible women than men in Ha Noi. Both groups are equally strange, which makes finding a romantic interest difficult on both sides. Even though this generally works in the favor of men, the ladies should know that we men also face many misadventures in Ha Noi.

MissKiss is correct: "the people who you DON'T see out and about boozy at Mao's or around the traps are generally the ones you want to meet!" It's no conspiracy theory, just uncommon sense. Ha Noi has a startling alcohol problem, and the more you can distance yourself from it the better off you will be - and the more likely you will find yourself a lovely lover.
So go for a run, walk a dog, ride a bicycle, play music, go to a pilates class, draw pictures, join and organization like the Ha Noi International Women's club (HIWC), go to church, volunteer at KOTO, play/watch soccer at UNIS, go to the Opera, start a club. If no nibbles, at least you are productively and healthily occupied!

PS - I am taken.

Yeah, find yourself a nice guy by going to church, joining the HIWC, volunteering at KOTO... And then when he's strangely unsatisfying, pull out the durian.

But, if you're looking for something with a little more tingle, maybe try a Google search for 'homemade vibrator', I'm sure some Minsk parts will come in handy! lol

To find the man, maybe there's an opportunity to set up a Hanoi Singles company or website. Hell, there's always the 'Men Seeking Women' section of the New Hanoian. There's a good looking four there at the moment, take your pick! evildesirez sounds nice.

Oh, and judging by a lot of the comments though, apparently the worse thing you can do for your love life is drink at Mao's! Poor Mao...

oh for crying out loud...these kind of comments Wesmo is exactly why I would rather invest my energy and time into cucumbers.

I feel this discussion taking a patronizing tone, when I do believe the original question was asked in trust and honesty. I think we can all agree that positive actions lead to positive relationships and positive lives, and self-destructive tendencies stemmed from experiences (possibly at Mao's) are just that...with unfortunate potential to take a turn for the worst. But I think it goes both ways- in majority, you get what you seek, and whom you surround yourself with certainly effects your overall outlook.

Thank you peoples - haven't laughed so much in ages (and will never look at a fruit bowl the same way again). I think the Ha Noi chapter of Sex and the City should meet up. How about it? (am female by the way).

lovely.

(not that kind of plug, sorry)

Dearest misshanoi and other ladies,

At the Myanmar Benefit gig last night at the Green Mango, there was a lovely new bunch of expats along with a friendly spattering of good-looking Hanoians - as well an assortment of fruit. I hope you didn't miss the live music and plethora (that's right Bethany, I said "plethora") of prizes, but if you did miss it and want to get in on the action, check out the Van Ho Ba (it's a band) on facebook and newhanoian. You don't even have to go to church, join a women's club, volunteer, or do other productive activities like walking a strangely unsatisfying dog :-)
Michal



PS - thanks to the everyone that came! We raised over $3,000USD for Myanmar

Just have to join in -

I do agree with you Misshanoi, and as my friend said only yesterday on the subject of eye candy for women in Hanoi "if you want good cooking you have to make it at home".

Partnered or not, a girl should have her own accessories!How optimistic of you, misshanoi, to come(to Hanoi) empty handed!

Yes do join the HIWC, but not for the men (there are almost none in attendance, and no singles)and I doubt you will have this type of conversation(unless you sit with me!)

I would "second" the tip about watching sport at UNIS on a Saturday afternoon - especially when there is some sort of meet or carnival. Recently I had the good fortune to encounter some fit football players changing in the open - a very nice bonus !(I have also been told that footballers often drop their daks after a few beers, and dance around, so if their behaviour doesn't put you off it may be some fun window shopping....)

Re :F&V -I have seen some large long marrows around (make sure you ozone them first)but can't vouch for their staying power.Try a marrow/toothbrush combo...

Name for such an item - Even if someone told you what it was, you may not get the tone exactly right when making your request-and we all know how that turns out....

Teacherman - Thanks for the heads up on the contraband. I will think carefully where to stash , um, items in case of a raid.....

Importing- Suggest you do not get anything like this posted - even door to door- into Vietnam for these reasons 1) You probably won't receive it, so that will be at least 100 bucks wasted 2)They WILL look 3) If you are not arrested (as per Teacherman's info) you will be summonsed to Noi Bai to pay duty.

For my 1000vnd worth on the whole Viet& Foreigner hookup thing, each is entitled to their own. I think that overall a greater percentage of foreign men are attracted to Viet women than the percentage of foreign women being attracted to Viet men. Also, aside from cultural differences,because of the fact that even average sized western women can seem "large" to a Viet man - accustomed to the small framed Viet women- I don't think they generally find western women as appealling. Equally, western women can find Viet men small (in stature). And finally, I know many many foreign men with viet women and only 2 foreign women with viet men.......

But, whatever, the point is - handy personal accessories aren't easy to find.

I hope you have some success soon. Failing that perhaps a kind (brave) friend could smuggle something in in their luggage.....and risk the Hanoi Hilton.